Maneuverable in soft snow, holds an edge on firm snow, it's a very versatile ski. The Mantra is certainly more demanding, and I think you'll prefer the Kore, especially when following kids. Id like something good for about 60/40 on/off trail. It loves to pop and hop around the mountain, while this new version really lets you lay it over on firm snow more than the previous Origins. While this isnt a free pass to say screw all that, I know I need 210s!, it is an official recognition that different skiers have different preferences which can easily change the length of ski they purchase. The Rocket Frame titanal laminate supports this theory, with full-metal underfoot and wider metal through the back end of the ski, its all business back there, and quite stiff to flex. SE. I've been devouring your videos and ski tests since I discovered them while shopping for new skis; you provide a fantastic resource for those of us who don't have the opportunity to demo everything! Like Volkl and Atomic, K2 has positioned metal along the edges of the ski. 19-meters in the turn shape, these skis can handle some pretty darn high speeds, while the tapered shape and rocker profile do just fine in softer snow. From steeps and trees to bumps and groomers, the versatility is very surprising for something with this rocker profile and taper shape. Its a great tree ski for here in Vermont, and its a better floater than its width may indicate. I'd say 180 is great! It uses some of the longest rocker in this comparison article, especially in the tip. Also, I'm trying to teach my 5 and 3 yo kids to ski so I'm in need of some maneuverability. If you're just on the groomers, that's not a big deal, but it sounds like you're having fun in the woods, and that's where maneuverability really matters. Built with Blizzards True Blend wood core, these Bonafides blend poplar and beech stringers to maximize performance while keeping the ski at least somewhat manageable. Most of my skiing is on groomers 50%, glades 25% & icy chop 25%(Ontario crap weather). With art and build design by ski legend Chris Benchetler and the Atomic Freeski team, this all-mountain ski is a slimmed-down version of the award-winning signature model, the Bent Chetler 120. I'm pouring over the choices in this category and am looking for your pro support to narrow down my choice once and for all. This is what used to be referred to as Expert until rocker skis came along and let experts go back to over head ski lengths. Which length would you recommend: 1.77 or 1.84? Have fun! SE. HI David! SE. Fits well! I have been eyeing the Blizzard Rustlers (both the 10s and the 9s) as well as the Kores, but am wondering if I should go for a more flexible ski? Im not a super technical skier, more freeride style. I plan to keep the boots and bindings so I can still skin and ski, which makes up about 20% of my skiing. The Line Sick Day 104 is definitely more directional, and they ski a bit short for the stated length. I would have a good deal on the Enforcer 100 (19/20), so not sure if the difference would be worth it. And I have to say that I fell in love with those skies, I've never skied so fast on and off piste. I have a connection that can get me any Armada ski at a discount, but wondering whether something like the Rustler 10s would be a better ski for me than the Tracer 98s? Black Crows Serpo 4. SE. Just for mogul performance, the 93 will be quicker and easier than the 100. Thanks! The Bent Chetler 100 has developed a great following over the years, and for good reason. Aggressive skiers who are looking for something just a bit more manageable than the burliest skis out there. Have fun! The Kore is a good mix of the three, with the Sky being the quickest and floatiest, and the Salomon being the dampest and most stable. I have been spending hours reading through all of them while on Christmas vacation. You should also, just for the heck of it, ski the M5 Mantra. It does operate better when brought up to speed, especially when its not in fresh snow. SE. SE, Hi, Meet your new daily driverThe Atomic Bent Chetler 100 is made for skiers who want to go everywhere and do everything on the mountain. Can't wait to hit the slopes, thanks for your help. Metal skis are tough in the bumps, especially hard ones. Ski: 2021-2022 LINE Sick Day 104, 186 cm. Weve also found them to be better suited to firmer snow or fresh powder versus crud and chop, where having weight underfoot does make a difference in the stability and compliance of the ski. At 100 mm underfoot, these skis have a decent footprint as well, so if you ever decide to get out of the snow park and ski some real snow, the Blend can get down with that as well. SE. ), Hi Kevin! Certainly quicker than the Enforcer, the Ripstick makes a strong turn as well. SE, Hi SE! Id say Im an expert level skier (IMHO). My main passion is freeride however only skiing a few weeks of the year now, and in the alps, powder is never guaranteed. I like the extra stability on groomers, and with 102mm waist widths, the extra length allows me to use these skis in light powder on those rare East Coast days. Scott, Hi Tom! Still will do both tho. I don't have a ton of powder experience. We usually pair skis of this caliber with either the Marker Griffon 13 or the Tyrolia Attack 13--both have strong performance. That long tip rocker also helps smooth out turn initiation on firm snow, helping you to link carving turns. Please remember, you will still have to take them to a certified technician at a local ski shop before your first run. Built with a light wood core and Stocklis Titec Pro metal topsheet, these things are true Stocklis--worthy of the praise and price for dedicated all-mountain skiers. Any help would be great. The QST 99 is a bit more heavy-duty, and for a ski without metal, is pretty stable and stout. Advanced: This might be one of the hardest groups to identify. It's entirely possible and very common for boots with the same Mondo Point to have different Boot Sole Lengths. I've been on an old 165cm 2007 Fischer RX6 that's delaminating pretty badly, and I'm looking for some new gear. It uses two sheets of metal sandwiched around a wood core, and also uses some carbon in its construction. Use: This is a question thats most relevant to advanced or expert skiers: Where are you skiing? You may notice that a lot of the comparisons we made in the 90 mm article carry over to this 100 mm range, but we also start to see a little more variety in shapes and intended use as skis get a little wider. I loved both. I'm looking for some advice - I bought my first pair of skis 5 seasons ago as a low-intermediate. The Ranger 102 is a little more soft snow focused, while the Enforcer 100 performs a little better on firm snow. Versus the Ranger 99, it's certainly got more of a carving/on-trail persona, but isn't quite the floater or crud-buster that the Fischer certainly is. If you loved the feel of the QST 106, but want to go a little narrower, I'd go with the QST 99. Was: $975.00. At 100 mm underfoot, this is the widest Maverick, containing a poplar wood core and two sheets of titanal. I would describe me a as a good skier and I can go down all trails without issues. Who it's For: Similar to the MX 99, you should be a relatively aggressive skier who is comfortable driving a ski. The mondo point size is the generic boot size that every boot maker uses it. This is all good stuff for pure and versatile all-mountain skiing, and were loving the energy and attitude from the new Maverick 100 Ti. The Enforcer 100 starts to feel like a ski with more of an even mix of performance characteristics for different terrain than some of the skis we talked about above, but the important thing to remember with this ski is it still uses two sheets of metal. View the Atomic Bent Product Line View all Atomic All-Mountain Wide Skis. What do you think would be a good fit? I've also considered the Armada Invictus 99 TI which is not on this list but probably compares? Are there any other skis other than the ones I've already looked at worth taking into consideration? Likely about 180 would work. Hope that helps! But for a mid to upper-90 underfoot ski, I love the Soul Rider! Felt a little chatter on the hard pack at times but they were better than i thought they would be on fast groomers. I am 40 years old, 5ft 9inch and weigh 235lb. The flex pattern is also one of the softest in this category, which really boosts the ski's forgiveness in variable snow conditions and tricky terrain. 188cm. The K2 Pinnacle 95 is another strong and versatile ski that can make a variety of turn shapes and styles in a bunch of different conditions. The most dramatic part of the ski is the amount of splay in the tips. With more dramatic rocker and taper, the QST 98 is almost twin-tipped and ready for some freestyle application. In most cases, this is the right call, but skiers should be geo-conscious before buying more than they can handle. Do you have a suggestion, including length for my size and weight? SE, Have you skied the Enforcer in the 193? Think of it as a shoe size, like a "size 11" for example. If you liked your old Bonafide, there's no real reason to switch it up, but I will say that the Enforcer is just as stable as the Bonafide, and is livelier and more playful. Thanks for the response! Anyhow, I demo'd a pair of M5's on a big snow day recently, way too much ski, once things were chopped up, I was getting thrown all over the place and really tiring. Is there a reason it didn't end up on your list for me? I am 59 ~ 175 lb and consider myself an advanced skier. These laminates are thinner than most, at .4mm wide, so its not a ton of metal, but still does the trick. Your email address will not be published. We see a lot of teen skiers on these raging around the woods, but theyre also more than acceptable for mellower skiers who just want something easy and playful with good energy for all-mountain cruising. Matt, Hi Andrew! Just be aware that the extra length takes away some of its maneuverability/forgiveness, so only make that decision if you really think you need the extra stability. Hello SE, Pumped to have found your site/reviews. Love your review videos. I'm 6', 165lbs without gear. 6'3" 200 pound mid-40s ex-racer & instructor here. Based on what I've read, I think the Rustler 10, Kore 99, and QST 99 are probably the best candidates. The good news is that the all around quality of skis is increasing, making it more possible than ever to find a ski that fits your specific style and preferences. Im 5'10" and 230 lbs. In the Enforcer, I'd ski the 185 at your size. This narrower brethren is built for a bit more all-mountain skiing, but still has the long tip rocker profile of the 108, making this 100 a very smooth competitor in fresh and soft snow. Like the Bonafide, it uses tip and tail rocker and some early taper, but both are quite subtle. Very informative site and chats. However I've grown tired of groomers and like to challenge myself some more. Intermediate: Congratulations! Thanks in advance! The flex pattern and shape of the Pinnacle 95 Ti give it really good performance in soft snow. If you are familiar with the Brahma, you'll be familiar with the Bonafide--same ski just wider. If youre looking to buy a powder ski, the natural notion is to go a bit longer. I want something that'll allow for my more freestyle mind as I get more comfortable on skis, 180s to 360s and some cliff hucks but still able to lay it down at high speeds. They're both playful and super-fun, which is what sounds like you like. But you're the expert what kind of skies would you recommend me? I have a pair of '99 Rossi 4S (203 cm) and K2 Totally Piste Teles from the mid 90s. And finally, how firm--I've currently got, so to speak, half a layer of titanal in my skis, so two layers seems a bit much, but I've never tried it. My young kids enjoy going off piste and I do not like my skis on moguls or in trees. I'd say the 181 is the right size in that ski for you. Jesper, Needless to say, my skis are not at their best in these conditions! Need some advice on ski purchase. After suffering a catastrophic spiral tib/fib in 2010 I hung em up. The commentary in your review rates it pretty highly as an all-mountain ski, but it doesn't make this list so I'm curious if that might fit the bill. While the previous ski on the list, the Mindbender 99 Ti, leans more to on-trail performance, this Salomon Stance 102 skews more to the fresh stuff. 28.5). Besides a ski that will do well for lift service and also back country, would love a ski that would do a bit better in powder than the current 80ish underfoot I currently have and also allow me to play in the park on small (the smallest) features and ski backwards. I never took a ski lesson in my life, so am probably not the best technical skier. I typically, however, recommend it for lighter weight skier more than skiers your size. Up until this winter, I was skiing entirely in the east, mostly smaller NY and PA hills, with a few trips to Whiteface. Overall, you'll find more similarities than differences between these three. Jesper from Sweden here, I'm 180 cm and weight about 72 kg 32 yo. If you liked the Kore 99, I'd certainly check out the Fischer--same type of lightweight performance but still has a good amount of stability. Who it's For:Anyone that wants a fun, versatile, playful all mountain ski that will perform well in a variety of terrain and snow conditions will really enjoy skiing the Origin 96. While its got the dual-metal laminate, its more active and engaging than a lot of skis in this grouping. Using Salomons construction techniques involving their Metal Twin Frame, these skis benefit from two sheets of titanal, with windows open in the forebody and the tail. They enable me to carve tight lines, make broad arcs across the trail, and float/cut through powder/variable snow; these do it all with ease. Have fun! In terms of versatility, the QST 99 can be described as a ski with a very even mix of performance characteristics for different terrain and snow conditions. My current quiver consists of the Enforcer 94s for harder snow days, and Rustler 10s for softer snow, trees, and is my current backcountry touring ski. That would really help in tight moguls and trees, and it still has solid torsional stiffness and good vibration damping so will hold an edge really well on firm snow too. I've found that former/current racers prefer skis like the Mantra and Bonafide to the other models on your list due to the construction. Along those lines, I also really appreciate the K2 Pinnacle 95 and the LIberty Origin 96 as lighter-weight alternatives to the Enforcer/Bonafide heft. So will likely go with the QST99. For your light option, go with the Rustler, but if you're looking to go a bit heavier (again, not much), I'm a Pinnacle 105 fan. and am a pretty aggressive overall when I ski. 60 % in the piste and 40 % trees / off-piste. Im 6-1 and 205lbs. All over when it comes to terrain - bowls, trees, bumps from time to time, and on groomers just depends on the day between tighter turns and super g turns. The Rustler 10 has metal underfoot that tapers towards the tip and tail of the ski, so it feels more stout underfoot, but since you don't ski terribly fast, you might not need that metal. The Fischer Ranger 98 Ti is another ski that bridges the gap between weight savings and stability. I value maneuverability and quickness over pure speed and I'm definitely not the most aggressive skier on the mountain anymore. Rossignol Blackops Day 92 . The more free ride spot Chris recommends is -3cm from true center which varies in how far forward that is from factory depending on the length. It's relatively lightweight and noticeably quick to maneuver, like the Sky, but it has better torsional stiffness, more stability at speed, and a longer effective edge because the rocker isn't quite as pronounced. Also check out the K2 Pinnacle 95 and the Blizzard Rustler 9 for comparison. SE, Looking to make the switch back to skiing. Hey SE! Have fun! Have decided to invest in 100mm ski. The Rossignol Sky 7 HD was re-invented for 2018 and is back unchanged for 2019. The Salomon QST 92 comes to mind right away. Have fun! The Kore (93 I'd recommend for you) is light but stiff. Free shipping. Specifically, I've been eyeing the Sky 7 and the QST 99. Any help is much appreciated. Then parabolic shapes came along. Atomic Bent 110. Oliver, Hi Oliver! Eric, Hi Eric! Hi there. I have also had a few folks recommend liberty origin 106s as they will supposedly be a blast on the tram but still hold up when I need an edge. Any recommendations as far as length would also be appreciated. I'm an ex-racer who skis aggressively. Maybe you want to do some AT skiing too, the Tracer 98 is a good candidate for a touring binding. Demo'd sizes were a 182 (too small) and 188 which felt good but on the Enforcer idk if I would go 193 or 185?? I loved how it busted through the crud and slush and held an edge on the corduroy. The snow was fresh, wet and chopped up. Overall, the QST is a fantastic ski that will do it all. I would say I ski 60/40 groomers to off-piste with an uphill dawn patrol trip 1 -2 times a week. We have the same boot length and I have gotten on them a couple of times and havent enjoyed them quite as much. I just imagine the M5 would feel like a lot of ski when skiing slowly, and it's also not the most maneuverable ski in trees. They were very maneuverable and fun, but not great on the hard chargers. The K2 is likely going to feel more like a wider Brahma, while the Ranger has more playfulness and will serve you better on fresher snow days. They have a shorter turn radius and lighter tips and tails. I liked these skis because they are so maneuverable and forgiving. 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