UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: To an 18-year-old. Peter Odom, what is a 46-year-old man doing trolling online for 18- year-old girls while his wife is upstairs asleep and his two daughters are asleep? We`re not blurring his photo because guess who that is? I mean, we filed a civil suit against Tom Montgomery with the attitude of stopping him from ever trying to write a book and winning monies and things of that nature. Tom?" "Unfortunately in New York State, you have to do a little something more to be criminally liable.". Which makes it all the more difficult to understand the evil this mother was secretly unleashing into cyberspace. Montgomery and Shieler were both lonely people who reached their mid-forties with their best days behind them, who then created deadly deceptions in the hopes of recapturing the glory of youth, and of finding real intimacy by fervently denying their true selves. Not only about -- speaking as a crime victim myself, a tangential victim of murder, there`s a guy behind bars for that murder, but she is still walking free. It said she was 18, so I thought I`d talk to her. So this girl restored his virility. That`s why we`re blurring the teen daughter`s photo. ", Montgomery's alter ego suddenly and violently crossed over from fantasy to real life. PETER ODOM, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Nancy, I can`t believe you`re even asking that question. E. ODOM: I was wondering about that, Nancy, because that could be an invasion of privacy or surveillance, eavesdropping type of crime. MARINESNIPER1000: Why do you care? I just -- I don`t know. However, what Jessi, whose online name was Tallhotblonde, didn't know was that her 'sweet sexy Marine' was actually a 46-year-old married father of two from Clarence, in upstate New York. And here, he did not commit a crime, no matter what he meant to do. He is a 46-year-old balding father of two Sunday school teacher. And happy birthday to North Carolina friend, Vernie, cancer survivor, four children, seven grands, one great. So I figured I`ll talk back to her. Prosecutors in New York desperately searched for a reason to charge Mary Shieler, but ultimately, could find no law she had broken. TALHOTBLONDBIG50: I know. The picture that Cindy Montgomery (right) sent 'Jessi' of her family life with Thomas Montgomery. Learn About Thomas Montgomery Documentary - Talhotblond Talhotblond is a 2009 documentary that apprehends an Internet love triangle story that resulted in a real-life murder. GRACE: With me is Brian`s father -- 22-year-old Brian Barrett gunned down as a result of a phony love triangle on line. Now, John Phillips, these two adults, a 45-year-old and a 46-year-old Sunday school teacher, they don`t care that they`re playing a teen? CLEMENTS: It should have been -- his emotional state was such that it wouldn`t be murder. We are taking your calls. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: "Why not?" Shieler, according to Schroeder, has never apologized to her daughter, shown any remorse, or acknowledged wrongdoing of any sort. You know, she`s probably a nice-looking girl. You`re going to blow a gasket, Jean Casarez. Miss Schroeder, thank you for being with us. He`ll say, leave me alone. Mary Shieler. What -- how did he strike you? He`s the killer. the air up there i will consider it for eternity; is pencil lead a pure substance. Unfortunately, it`s not. Mary was thrilled with all the attention. ELEANOR ODOM, PROSECUTOR: Yes, Nancy. Jessi's swimsuit photos, and Mary's screen name: "talhotblond" were the perfect bait. What happened? KIRBY CLEMENTS, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: There you go. She was just looking to have some fun and the reason she kept talking to Montgomery was because she didn`t want him to talk to real teenagers, and do to real teenagers what she didn`t -- you know, she didn`t want him to do. SCHROEDER: Well, and to be perfectly accurate, I actually sent in one of my friends, a guy, because I knew that Thomas Montgomery had issues with women and he had trust issues with women and he liked to lie to women. I wish I could be that 19-year-old Marine for you." The pair then seduced each other for months, as "Tommy" shared tales of combat in Fallujah, which Montgomery learned about by watching the news, while Jessi sent sizzling bikini photos and a split heart pendent that said "Jessi and Tommy forever." UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "So it`s time for Tommy to be put to rest." GRACE: Explain your thinking on that. And what Montgomery didn't know until it was too late was that the beautiful girl who sent him underwear and promised marriage was in fact a 45-year-old woman called Mary Shieler who lived in Oak Hill, West Virginia. She has spoken publicly about the deadly love triangle just once, to the BBC. Why isn`t she charged here? CUYAHOGA FALLS, OHIO - Mary Yvonne Shieler, 69, formerly of Fayetteville, WV went home to be with the Lord on Monday, June 27, 2016 in Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio. In May, 2005, posing as a young, handsome Iraq-bound Marine, he entered a teen chat room the popular game site "Pogo.". This erupted in violence. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: "I know, Tom." Montgomery's wife, alerted by her daughter, found a trove of love letters, photos and mementos from Jessi, including a pair of red panties. It`s your choice." Princess of Wales channels the Welsh dragon in a bright red coat at St David's Day Mike Tindall's latest money-making scheme! And that`s what she does, too. He`s intentionally using this old photo to pretend he is the military boy on line. And there might be something very creative but the law here just didn`t allow for it, and that`s what`s so sad. Montgomery knew he was in way over his head, but he couldn't bring himself to end things with her. GRACE: Freaks. "That it would end, fall off and that would be the end of it. Born on April 3, 1947 at Rt. I mean, that`s -- that`s really how I see this. P. ODOM: The question, Nancy, you come to me? Let`s listen to what these two are texting and writing and saying to each other on phone conversations. Yet, one was willing to commit murder over somebody online. What`s your question? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Her bio (INAUDIBLE) says she was 18. "The man in the center is Tom, my husband since 1989. SCHROEDER: Right. They wanted to have fun. Born on April 3, 1947 at Rt. Resides in Ronceverte, WV. It was later discovered that Shieler had flirted online, as 'Jessi', with other men too, and once pointed a videocamera up her unaware daughter's skirt for a video she sent to several men with the question, 'guys, do you like it? I was addicted to it," he said. Jean, you didn`t tell me he was impotent. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "I wish I had a perfect life like you and Brian do. GRACE: Joining me right now is a special guest. Today; GRACE: Let`s see Odom and Clements, please, Peter Odom and Kirby Clements. GRACE: Well, you`re accurate about that. "It's rare that a new law is the solution to social problems," said Beaber, who suggested specific injunctions from "being deceptive on the Internet," similar to orders of protection, as a possible solution. Once there, a policeman asked Jessi's mother, Mary Shieler, where Jessi was. We know all about getting text messages, but how do police go back and obtain, for instance, chat room transcripts? It can be changed, though, to allow for it in the future. Work. Mary A Shieler, age 96, Lincolnshire, IL Background Check Cities: Mountain Home ID, Newport WA Possible Relatives: Taylerann Elizabeth Faul, Denise Nicole Haskins Show More Mary B Shieler, age 61 View Full Report Address:***** Brier Hill Ln, Ronceverte, WV. Was there any way to have saved the victim in this case, Brian Barrett? So this story ends with one man dead, one in prison, and one mother who was never charged with a crime. While Montgomery said the virtual sex made him "feel kind of dirty," he was in too deep to sever ties with her. If you think you`re talking to an underager, if you`re an adult and you think you`re talking to an underage girl, you`re a weirdo. GRACE: worked together. Prosecutors said their discovery of Montgomery's DNA on a peach pit found at the crime scene and a photo of Montgomery family's gun cabinet -- which showed the type of old military rifle that police believe was used to shoot Barrett -- were key to their case against Montgomery. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Tallhotblond. (BEGIN AUDIO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: "I ache to be with Tommy. Montgomery was in a teen chat room and his profile reveals his real age. Aug. 27, 2011 — -- The Internet is known as a breeding ground for illicit affairs between people often hiding behind fake names and handles. It seems as if she has some responsibility in this. Thoughts? Right. We are no longer accepting comments on this article. I want to go straight out first to John Phillips, host of KABC. They`re freaks and a potential pedophile. If you read these e-mails, he was clearly manipulated by a woman who should have stopped playing her game. Contributors control their own work and posted freely to our site. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I was confused, and I didn`t know which way to go. dodgers baseline club menu; stephen leslie bradley daughter. She said that she was bored and lonely. By all accounts, Mary Shieler seemed to be a perfect mother, one who spoiled her breathtakingly beautiful teenage daughter, Jessi. You`re not going to forgive this one." Described by neighbours as a good man who worked for his daughters' swim team board, Montgomery's life slowly started to become fixated around his conversations online with 'Jessi.'. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "Yes, Jessi. SCHROEDER: Well, she`s never -- to this day, she hasn`t apologized to her daughter, she hasn`t apologized to the Barretts. They turn to these chat rooms to try to live up to a different persona. But Mary couldn't let it go. On his part, Montgomery had created an alter-ego of himself as younger and stronger. 'Let me introduce you to these people,' she wrote. His father is with us live tonight -- lost his life, multiple gunshot wounds to the face, the jaw, point-blank range, over a girl neither had ever met. Mary Shieler also pursued an education -- she took classes at a community college in West Virginia. When 18-year-old Talhotblond started instant-messaging him, he decided to pretend he was 18 too. There`s the real Talhotblond. They both separately, independently go into a teen chat room posing as teens and strike up a love affair with somebody they meet in the chat room. And the minute it goes away, he tries to neutralize it by getting it back again. Turns out Mary, middle aged, overweight, and tragically bored, had created a new life for herself online. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: "No!" This (EXPLETIVE DELETED) loser is leaving on Saturday. And that legally is important, right, because he is using the brain and there is an intention there to continue this conversation. We are taking your calls. Eleanor Odom, back you again. "), there has been no legal recourse to try Shieler, who has said she plans to write a book about the dangers of the Internet. MARINESNIPER1000: You still have it, don`t you? That`s Tallhotblond. But most such virtual relationships aren't dangerous as this -- when "Talhotblond" and "MarineSniper" struck up a relationship online, it ended in murder. That`s inexcusable. She says, look, I want you to pretend to be Tommy again, and had she stopped playing her game at any point in time, Brian Barrett would still be alive today. I mean, that is just sick behavior, not illegal, though. And about an hour later, the police and the sheriff showed up at our door. I want to go out to Jean Casarez, joining us tonight, legal correspondent, "In Session." He MUST seize it, starting with the Budget, writes ANDREW NEIL, The Daily Beast: Web's Killer Love Triangle, Online Love Triangle, Deception End in Murder, Do not sell or share my personal information. He was having an on-line love affair with who he believed to be Tallhotblond, a teen girl. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "That is up to you, Jessi. Follow him on Twitter. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The electronic love triangle soon becomes very real when the furious rivalry ends in cold-blooded murder. Self: On the Case with Paula Zahn. You know what? Thomas Montgomery sent 'Jessi' this picture of himself as 'MarineSniper'. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "You told him I`m a loser and predator." GRACE: Don`t start out with saying -- throwing mentally ill out there because in my world of crime and justice, when you say insane or mentally ill, you`re talking about a legal definition that could get the killer off and he could end up doing six months in the crazy bin and then walking free, all right? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Just to reiterate what the specialist just said -- I saw the documentary and Courtney Cox`s (ph) movie. She sent Montgomery photos that lived up to her screen name and then some. GRACE: Kirby. While talhotblond features excerpts of a prison interview with Montgomery, Shieler refused to be interviewed, although Schroeder spoke to her for twenty minutes off-camera. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: "Why Saturday?" UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: "Why?" Top Networking Product Provider. When "talhotblond" texted him that she was a virgin, and asked how old he was, he began a fantasy of his own. Tallhotblond set in motion a chain of events, the natural result of which had to be murder, and she knew it. While a fatal feud for a mystery woman seems remarkable, Rex Beaber, a clinical psychologist and attorney who's quoted in the film, notes that the Jessi/Montgomery relationship could only have prospered as fantasyand that breaking that fantasy made tragedy almost inevitable. You know, she has not taken responsibility to the point where -- her ex-husband who we interviewed, he himself said, look, I think jail would have been the only thing that would have driven it home to this woman, his ex-wife that she did something wrong. Home; Products. He`s doing what millions of men are doing. So then Jessi brings in, lures Brian Bennett, an innocent bystander, to start to ask him questions. I mean, it`s almost like a party to a crime type of charge because she was the one who goaded GRACE: Oh, here`s the picture of the mom, El. Brian Barrett's parents began a petition to for laws to protect against future Mary Shielers. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "He left a few copies of your conversation on my toolbox today. The relationship had become more than a flirtation, Montgomery said. She`s just a piece of dirt. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED. GRACE: So bottom line she thinks that she`s speaking to a teen, a very handsome young teen, about to be deployed to Iraq who has this job and works with 22-year-old Brian Barrett. Both of them are parents. "Maybe more people have to get killed before people pay attention to this problem," said Schroeder. Brian Barrett's parents started a petition to enact laws to protect against future Mary Shielers. She had to go and physically get that underwear in order to send it away to somebody she thought was a Marine. For the movie, Mary Shieler's name was changed to Beth . The second best result is Mary A Shieler age 80+ in Lincolnshire, IL. She strikes up a romance in one of those teen chat rooms with another teen called Marinesniper, a handsome 18-year-old set to deploy to Iraq. This is the victim, Brian Barrett, 22 years old, gunned down. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She said, hey, cowboy, how are you doing? I`m sorry, Tom. Rishi Sunak warns MPs they can't trust 'Mr 2nd Referendum' Keir Starmer on Brexit in meeting with backbench DAILY MAIL COMMENT: Rishi Sunak's vaunted Brexit deal could be a landmark achievement, Rishi's deal gives Brexit a second chance. As the pair's online affair intensified, 'Jessi' began to send Montgomery extremely provocative photographs and he sent her a picture of himself from 30 years ago, when he was a member of the U.S. Marines. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The affair abruptly ends in a hail of gunfire. They couldn`t charge the mother with something? January 27, 2021 to present. Past Addresses: Oak Hill WV, Oak Hill WV +4 more. Same thing with the woman in West Virginia. He`s 46. All because of a fantasy girl no one had ever met in person. ", Montgomery said Jessi was horrified, and broke off the relationship immediately. ', Now 52, Thomas Montgomery is serving 20-years in Attica Prison in New York for the murder of Brian Barrett. Co-workers led the police to Montgomery. They were a team, inseparable, getting nails done together and shopping for prom, and not just for one dress. And that`s how it becomes this triangle. We used to call it "starting stuff." Investigators then learned of Jessi through his computer, and dispatched officers to her Oak Hill, West Virginia home to make sure she was safe. And in the case of, you know, both Thomas Montgomery and Mary Shieler, they wanted something to do. You know what? Him and I have been Cub Scout leaders for a few years, and the boys played together on our soccer team. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I told the guys I`d be there at 9:00 o`clock. TALHOTBLONDBIG50: You`re wrong. 2023 BuzzFeed, Inc. All rights reserved. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: "What would you do?" UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "How you told him I`m a loser and predator, I don`t have a life. They were a team, inseparable, getting nails done together and prom shopping for not just one, but two dresses. GRACE: Thank you. Turns out Mary, middle aged, overweight, and tragically bored, had created a new life for herself online. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "What you two talked about." But for Jessi, he invented a younger, stronger, more virile version of himself, called "Tommy." They`re out there, they`re anonymous, they`re living out their fantasies, they`re doing what they think is safe. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: "Make love to me, Tommy." In March 2006, Montgomery told "20/20" one of his daughters was using his computer when Jessi happened to instant message him. P. ODOM: It doesn`t mean it`s right. CLEMENTS: Well, we didn`t use the word "stuff." She knew that she PETER ODOM: She had to know it. Bombshell tonight. Jessi, meanwhile, seemed to feed off Montgomery's aggression. 'I have never felt this way,' Montgomery replied. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: In the world of cyberspace, it was just one chance encounter. Reputation management expert reveals why it doesn't just happen to How did Russia lose HALF of its 45,000 elite paratroopers in just seven months? Loved baseball, kayaking, his small town church, leaves behind parents, Bob and Kim, brother, Michael, sister, Nikki. 10 positive effects of population growth on economic development Whatever. Joining me out of L.A. who produced the film on this case, including an interview with the alleged killer. I just thought, oh god.". THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. 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